Browsing my computer files, I found an old text file I saved off back in 1995. The source was a message post in what was known as the USENET groups which are a large number of discussion message boards.
The text is a reply to someone's post which appears to call the King James version (KJV) of the Bible supporting New Age doctrine and that the NIV fixed the error. The person who posted the reply is named “Richard” and I have not been able to find him. This was a good post and shows some examples of huge differences between the KJV and the NIV Bibles. While I beleive the basic message in the same, there are a lot of fine points that can cause gigantic doctrinal issues.
Personally, I do not care much for the NIV as you can see there are many passages that have either the meaning changed or have been completely left out, but at the same time, I am sure the same could be said for the KJV compared to the originals if we ever were to find them. I know this though, the KJV of the Bible is the one that has primarily been used for the foundation of many of our doctrines, which in the last 150 years have seen a huge awakening of the power of God upon this planet. The teachines in the KJV draw people to Yeshua, repentance and holiness while showing the Body of Yeshua has great power and authority through the Christ.
Here is the post, while I have not went through all the references, those that I have do show a great difference and loss of meaning. If you are a NIV fan, be sure to keep your eyes on the footnotes in that version to make sure you get the rest of the story.
Note: I did clean up some major typos I noticed, but for the most part it is the same as posted back in 1995.
Now, I DO NOT print anything false TO MY KNOWLEDGE...
When I post something, I check it out to the max, otherwise I would be
bearing false witness...
I have no idea where this man got his fouled up data, so I went through
the Bible today to give you the truth...
HAVE I CHECKED IT OUT?
Of sourse I did...
Read this...
Here is the lists of NEW TESTAMENT ONLY (Old testament would be huge) verses left out...
Ask yourself... "Who would benefit most from leaving out these specific words?
And after you have read these and answered the question, you will come to the conclusion that THESE must be VERY important, and MUST BE THE MOST DANGEROUS WORDS in the BIBLE, ... FOR SATAN!
Memorize these well, and take them to heart, these MUST be good, for him to remove them!
------- Omissions of Names of
------- Our Lord
NOW WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO LEAVE OUT THE NAME OF OUR LORD? For universality, exactly AS I stated in the post on ANOTHER BLUNT SWORD...
Matthew
6:33 of God
8:29 Jesus
13:36 Jesus
13:51 Lord
15:30 Jesus'
16:20 Jesus
17:11 Jesus
17:20 Jesus
18:2 Jesus
18:11 Whole verse including Son of man.
19:17 that is, God
21:12 of God
22:30 of God
22:32 God (is not)
23:8 even Christ
24:2 Jesus
25:13 wherein the Son of man cometh
28:6 the Lord
Mark
5:13 forthwith Jesus
6:34 Jesus
7:27 Jesus
9:24 with tears, Lord
11:10 in the name of the Lord
11:14 Jesus
11:26 Whole verse including Father
12:27 God (of the living)
Luke
2:40 in Spirit
4:4 but by every word of God
4:41 Christ (the Son of God)
7:22 Jesus
7:31 And the Lord said
9:56 For the Son of man
9:57 Lord -
12:31 His kingdom, in place of, kingdom of God
13:25 (Lord) Lord
21:4 of God
22:31 And the Lord said
23:42 Lord
John
4:16 Jesus
4:42 the Christ
4:46 Jesus
5:30 Father
6:39 Father's
6:69* that Christ
8:11* Lord
8:20 Jesus
8:29 the Father
9:35* man, in place of, God
16:16 because I go to the Father
19:38 (and took the body of) Jesus Acts
2:30 according to the flesh, He Would raise up Christ
3:26 Jesus
4:24 God (which hast made)
7:30 of the Lord
7:32 God (of Isaac)
7:32 God (of Jacob)
7;37 Lord your
8:37 Whole verse including Jesus
8:37 Whole verse including Christ
8:37 Whole verse including the Son
8:37 Whole verse including of God
9:5 Lord said
9:6 And he trembling and- astonished said, Lord what wilt Thou have me to do?
9:6 And the Lord said unto him-
9:29 Jesus
15:11 Christ
15:18 unto God are all His works
16:31 Christ
19:4 Christ
19:10 Jesus
20:21 Christ
20:25 of God
22:16 His name, in place of, the name of the Lord
23:9 let us not fight against God
Romans
1:16 of Christ
6:11 our Lord
8:1 who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit
14:6 and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard
15:8 Jesus
15:19 of God
16:18 Jesus
16:20 Christ
16:24 Whole verse including Lord
16:24 Whole verse including Jesus
16:24 Whole verse including Christ
1 Corinthians
1:14 God
5:4 Christ ...
5:4 ... Christ
5:5 Jesus
6:20 and in your spirit-, which are God's
9:1 Christ
9:18 of Christ
10:28 for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof
15:47 the Lord
16:22 Jesus
16:22 Christ
16:23 Christ
11 Corinthians
4:6 Jesus
4:10 Lord
5:18 Jesus
10:7 (so are we) Christ's
11:31 Christ
Galatians
3:17 in Christ
4:7 Christ
6:15 in Christ
6:15 Jesus
6:17 Lord
Ephesians
3:9 * by Jesus
3:9 Christ
3:14 of our Lord
3:14 Jesus
3:14 Christ
5:9 light, in place of, Spirit
Philippians
4:13 Christ
Colossians
1:2 and the Lord
1:2 Jesus
1:2 Christ
1:28 Jesus
2:2 and of the Father
1 Thessalonians
1:1 from God
1:1 our Father
1:1 and the Lord
1:1 Jesus
1:1 Christ
3:11 Christ
3:13 Christ
11 Thessalonians
1:8 Christ
1:12 Christ (may be)
2:4 as God (sitteth in the temple)
1 Timothy
1:1 Lord
2:7 in Christ
3:16* who, in place of, God
5:21 Lord
II Timothy
4:1 the Lord
4:22 Jesus
4:22 Christ
Titus
1:4 Lord
Philemon
v. 6 Jesus
Hebrews
3:1 Christ
10: 9 0 God
1:22 through the Spirit
5:10 Jesus
5:14 Jesus
I John
1:7 Christ
3:16 of God
4:3 * C h r i s t I s c o m e I n t h e f l e s h.
5:7 * Whole verse including the Father
5:7 Whole verse including the Word'
5:7 Whole verse including the Holy Ghost
5:13 and that ye may believe-on the name of the Son
5:13 of God
II John
v. 3 the Lord
v. 9 of Christ (he hath both the Father)
Jude
v. 4 God (and our Lord)
Revelation
1:8 The Beginning
1:8 and The Ending
1:9 Christ ...
1:9 . . . Christ
1:11* I am Alpha
1:11* and Omega
1:11* the First
1:11* and the Last
12:17 Christ
14:5 before the throne of God
16:5 0 Lord
19:1 Lord
20:9 from God
20:12 the throne, in place of, God
21:4 God
22:21 Christ
Total number omitted 173
Jesus 38
Christ 43
Lord 35
God 31
Other names 26
Total number omitted 173
NIV
Whole Verses -Omitted
Matthew 17:21
18:11
23:14
Mark 7:16
9:44
9:46
11:26
15:28
Luke 17:36
23:17
John 5:4
Acts 8:37
15:34
24:7
28:29
Romans 16:24
I John 5:7 -
Verses omitted 17
NIV - Portions of Verses Omitted
Matthew
5:27 by them of old time
5:44 bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you
5:44 despitefully use you, and
6:13* For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
15:6 or his mother
15:8 draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and
19:9 and whoso marrieth her which is put away- doth commit adultery
19:20 from my youth
20:7 and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive
20:16 for many be called, but few chosen
20:22* and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with
20:23* and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with
22:13 and take him away
23:4 and _grievous to be borne
25:13* wherein the Son of man cometh
26:3 and the scribes
26:60 yet found they none
27:35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted My garments among them, and upon MY vesture did they cast lots
28:2 from the door
28:9 as they went to tell His disciples
Mark
1:14 Of the kingdom
1:42* as soon as He had spoken
3:5 whole as the other
3:15 to heal sicknesses, and
6:1 1* Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment,
than for that city
6:33 and came together unto Him
6:36 for they have nothing-
7:2 they found fault
7:8 as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do
8:9 they that had eaten
8:26 nor tell it to any in the town
9:38 and he followeth not us
9:45 into the fire that never shall be quenched
9:49 and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt
10:7 and cleave to his wife
10:21 take up the cross
10:24 them that trust in riches
11:8 and strawed them in the way
11:10* in the name of the Lord
11:23 whatsoever he saith
12:23 therefore, when they shall rise
12:29 of all the commandments
12:30 this is the first commandment
12:33 and with -all the soul
13:11 neither do ye premeditate
13:14 spoken of by Daniel the prophet
14:19 and another said, Is it I?
14:27* because of Me this night
14:68 and the cock crew
14:70 and thy speech agreeth thereto
15:3 but He answered nothing
Luke
1:28 blessed art thou among women
1:29 when she saw him
2:42 up to Jerusalem
4:4 * but by every word of God
4:8 * Get thee behind Me, Satan
4.18 to heal the brokenhearted
5:38 and both are preserved
7:31* And the Lord said
8:43 had spent all her living upon physicians
8:45 and they that were with Him
8:45* and sayest thou, Who touched -Me?
8:48 be of good comfort
8:54 put them all out, and
9:10 a desert place
9:54 even as Elias did?
9:55 and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of
9:56* For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them
11:2 Which art in heaven
11:2 Thy - will be done, as in heaven, so in earth
11:4 but deliver us from evil
11:11 bread of any of you ... will he give him a stone ? -- or if he ask
11:44 scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites
11:54* that they might accuse Him
12:39 he would have watched, and
17:9 him? I trow not
18:24 that he was very sorrowful
19:45 therein, and them that bought
20:13 when they see him
20:23* Why tempt ye Me?
20:30 took her to wife, and he died childless
22:31* And the Lord said
22:64* they struck Him 'on the face
22:68* Me, nor let Me go
23:23 and of the chief priests
23:38 written . . . in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew
24:1 and certain others with them
24:42 and of an honeycomb
24:46 and thus it behoved
John
1:27*t is preferred before me
3:13*t Which. is -in heaven
3:15 should not perish, but
5:3 waiting for the moving of the water
5:16* and sought to slay Him
6:11 to the disciples, and the disciples
6:22* that one whereinto. His disciples were entered
6:47* on Me
8:9 being convicted by their own conscience
8:9 even unto the last
8:10 and saw none but the woman
8:10 those thine accusers?
8:59* going through the midst of them, and so passed by
9:6 of the blind man-
10:26* as I said unto you
11:41 where the dead was laid
12:1 which had been dead
16:16* because I go to the Father
17:12 in the world
19:16 and led Him away
Acts
2:30* according to the flesh, He would raise up Christ
3:11 the lame man which was healed
7:37* Him shall ye hear
9:5 it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks
9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt Thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him
10:6 he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do
10:12 and wild beasts
10:21 which were sent unto him froth Cornelius
10:32 who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee,
13:42 the Jews out, of the synagogue, and the Gentiles
15:18* unto God are all His, works
15:24 saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law
18:21 1 must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem
20:15 and tarried at Trogyllium
21:8 that were of Paul's company
21:22 the multitude must needs come together. for
21:25 that they observe no such thing, save only
22:9 and were afraid
22:20 unto his death
23:9 let us not fight against God
24:6 and would have judged according to our law
24:8 Commanding his accusers to come unto thee
24:26 that he might loose him
26:30 And when he had thus spoken
28:16 the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard
Romans
1:16*- of Christ
8:1 who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
9:28 in righteousness. because a short work
10:15 preach the gospel of peace
11:6 But if-it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work
13:9 Thou shalt not bear false witness
14:6 he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it
14:21 or is offended, or is made weak
15:24 1 will come to you
15:29 of the gospel
I Corinthians
6:20* and in your spirit, which are God's
10:28* for the earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof
11:24 Take, eat
Galatians
3:1 that ye should not obey the truth
Ephesians
3:14* of our Lord Jesus Christ
5:30* of His flesh, and of His bones
Philippians
3:16 by the same rule, let us mind the same thing
Colossians
1:2 * and the Lord Jesus Christ
1:14* through His blood
3:6 on the children of disobedience
I Thessalonians
1:1 from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ
I Timothy
3:3 not greedy of filthy lucre
6:5 from such withdraw thyself
6:7 it is certain
Hebrews
2:7 and didst set him over the works of Thy hands
3:6 firm unto the end
7:21 after the order of Melchisedec
8-12 and their iniquities
10:30* saith the Lord
10:34 in heaven
11:11 was delivered of a child
11:13 and were persuaded of them
12:20 or thrust through with a dart
I Peter
1:22* through the Spirit
4:3 of our life
4:14* on their part He is evil spoken of, but
11 Peter on your part He is glorified
3:10 in the night
I John
4:3 * Christ is come in the flesh
5:13* and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God
Revelation
1:8 * the Beginning and the Ending
1:11* I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Lost: and
1:11 which are in Asia
5:14 Him that liveth for ever and ever
11:1 and the angel stood
11: 17* and art to come
14:5 before the throne of God
15:2 over his mark
21:24 of them which are saved
Total number omitted 180
DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE
EFFECT ON THE MEANING
Matthew
1:25* Omit: her firstborn
5:22 Omit: without a cause
6:1 righteousness, in place of, alms
6:4 Omit: openly
6:6 Omit: openly
6:18 Omit: openly
9:36 harassed, in place' of, fainted
16:3 Omit: 0 ye hypocrites
17:20 little faith, in place of, unbelief
19:16* Omit: Good
19:17* Why askest thou Me concerning the good? One is good, in place of, Why callest thou Me good? There is none _good but one, that is, God
20:26 it is not, in place of, it shall not be
20:34 Omit: their eyes (received sight)
22:7 Omit: heard
23:19 Omit: fools and
24:7 Omit: and pestilences;
24:36* Add: neither the Son (but My Father)
24:48 Omit: his coming
25:31 Omit: holy
26:28* Omit: new
26:59 Omit: and elders
27:34 wine, in place Of, vinegar
27:42 Omit: If
27:64 Omit: by night
Mark
1:2 Isaiah the prophet, in place of' the prophets.
2:16 of the, in place of, and (Pharisees)
2:16 Omit: How is it
2:17 Omit: to repentance
2:22 Omit: is spilled
3:29* sin, in place of, damnation
4:11 Omit: to know
5:36 having disregarded, in place of, as soon as (Jesus) heard
7:14 again, in place of, all
7:31 through, in place of, and (Sidon)
8:1 again, in place of, very
9:25 he saw distinctly, in place of, made him look
9:29 Omit: and fasting
10:43 it is not so, in place of so shall it not be
12.4 Omit: they cast stones
12:4 Omit: sent . . . away
13:8 Omit: and troubles
13:33 Omit: and pray
14:22 Omit: eat (this is)
14:24 Omit: new
14:51 Omit: the young men
14:65 received, in place of, did strike
15:8 coming up, in place of, crying aloud
15:39* Omit: He so cried out
Luke
2:14 Men of good will, in place of, good will toward men
2:22* their, in place of, her (purification)
4:1 in, in place of, into (the wilderness)
6:48 because it was well built, in place of, for it was
founded upon a rock
7:28 Omit: prophet
9:35* chosen, in place of, beloved (Son)
9:48 is, in place of, shall be (great)
11:53 went out thence, in place of, said these things unto them
12:18' the wheat, in place of, my fruits
14:5 son, in place of, ass
16:9 it shall fail, in place of , ye fail
17:3 Omit: against thee
21:36 may have strength, in place of, may be accounted worthy'
23:15 he sent Him bock to us, in place of, I sent you to him
23:39 not, in place of, If
23:45 failed (or eclipsed),: in place of, darkened
24:17 stood, in place of,' are (sad)
John
1:16 Because, in place- of, And (of His)
1:51 Omit: Hereafter
6:65* Omit: My
6:69* the Holy One of God, in place of, that Christ, the Son
of the living God
8:28* Omit: My
8:38* Omit: My
9:4 * We, in place of, 1
10:32* Omit: My
12:7 * in order that she may keep, in place of, hath she kept
12:47 keep, in place of, believe
13:18 My bread, in place of, bread with Me
14:28* Omit: My
16: 10* Omit: my
17:17* Omit: Thy (truth)
18:40 Omit: all
20:17* Omit: My (Father: but go)
Acts
2:1 together, in place of, with one accord
3:20 foreordained, in place of, preached
5:16 Omit: unto
6:8 grace, in. place of, faith
6:13 Omit: blasphemous
9:25 Add: his (disciples)
10:16 immediately, in place of, again
10:30 Omit: fasting
13:19, He divided by lot their land about 450 years, and after
20 these things, He gave judges, in place of, He divided their land to them by lot. And after that He gave them judges about the space of 450 years
13:45 Omit: contradicting and
15:23 Omit: after this manner
15:25 having chosen, in place- of, chosen
16:13 we supposed, in place of, was wont
17:5 Omit: which believed not
17:26 Omit: blood
18:5 word, in place of, spirit
18:17 Omit: the Greeks
19:2 Omit: they said
19:40 Add: not (give an account.)
22:26 Omit: Take heed
23:12 Omit: certain of
23:15 Omit: to morrow
24:2 reforms, in place of, very worthy deeds
24:9 joined in attack, in place of, assented
25:6 Add: not (more than) eight or
25:15 condemnation, in place of, judgment
25:16 Omit: to die.
Add: (host seen) -Me
28:13 cost off, in place of, fetched a compass
Romans
9:32 Omit: of the law
1 Corinthians
4:2 Here, in place of, Moreover
7:3 Omit: benevolence
7 :5 Omit: fasting and
7:38 marries his own virgin, in place of, giveth ... in marriage
7:38 marries not,. in place of, giveth her not in marriage
7:39 Omit: by the low
8:7 custom, in place of, conscience (of the idol)
9:21 of, in' place of, to (God) to (Christ)
9:22 Omit: as (weak)
9:23 all things, in place of, this
10:28 offered in sacrifice, in place of, offered in sacrifice unto idols
11:24 Omit: broken
11:29 Omit: unworthily
14:38 he is ignored, in place of, let him be ignorant
II Corinthians
4:14* with, in place of, by
5:17 Omit: all things
12:19 Long ago, in place of, Again
Galatians
4:14 your, in place of, my (temptation) 5:19 Omit: Adultery
5:21 Omit: murders
Ephesians
3:9 dministration, in place of, fellowship 4:9 Omit: first
4:17 Omit: other
5:9 light, in place of, Spirit
Philippians
4:23 your spirit, in place of, you all
Colossians
2:18 Omit: not
4:8 ye might know our, in place of, he might know your
4:12 fully assured, in place of, complete
4:13 labor, in place of, zeal
1 Thessalonians
2:15 Omit: their own
3:2 Omit: and ... fellow labourer
I Timothy
1:17* Omit: wise
4:10 strive, in place of, suffer reproach 5:4 Omit: good
and 5:16 Omit: man or
6:19 life that is, in place of, eternal life
II Timothy
1:11 Omit: of the Gentiles
4:1 and, in place of, at
Titus
1:4 Omit: mercy
Philemon
v. 2 sister, in place of, beloved
v. 12 Omit: therefore receive
Hebrews
8:11 citizen, in place of neighbour
10:34 with prisoners, in place of, my bonds
12:7 For, in place of, If
13:21 Omit: work
James
1:19 Ye know, in place of, Wherefore
2:5 to the world, in place of, of this world
2:20 idle, in place of, dead
3:8 unsettled, in place of, unruly
3:12 neither does salt make water fresh, in place of, so no fountain both yield salt water and fresh
4:4 Omit: adulterers and
4:12 neighbor, in place of, another
4:14 Ye are, in place of, It is
5:5 Omit: as
5:16 sins, in place of, faults Peter
2:2 Add: (thereby) unto salvation
3:8 humble minded, in place of, courteous
3:13 zealous, in place of, followers
3:16 Omit: as of evildoers
4:1 Omit: for us
4:16 name, in place of, behalf
5:5 Omit: be subject
5:11* Omit: glory and
II Peter
1:3 own, in place of, to (glory)
1:21 men from God, in place of, holy men of God
2:17 Omit: for ever
3:2 of your, in place of, of us the (apostles)
3:10 shall be detected, in place of, shall be burned up
I John
2:20 Ye all know, in place of, ye know all things
4:20 he cannot, in place of, how can he
II John
v. 9 goes before, in place of, transgresseth
III John
v. 8 sustain, in place of, receive
Jude
v. 1 beloved, in place of, sanctified
v. 5 all things, in place of, this
v. 19 Omit: themselves
v. 25* Omit: wise
v. 25 Add: before the whole age (both now and)
Revelation
1:5 loves, in place of, loved
1:6 a kingdom, in place of, kings and
2:3 Omit: host laboured
2:9 Omit: works, and
2:13 Omit: thy works., and
2:15* in like manner, in place of, which thing I hate_
2:20 Omit: a few things
2:22 her, in place of, their
2:24 to the, in place of, and (unto the rest)
3:5 thus, in place of, the same
4:6 Add: as (a sea of)
5:4 Omit: and to read
5:10 them, in place of, us
5:16 a kingdom, in place of, kings
5:10 they shall reign, in place of, we shall reign
6:6 Add: as (a voice)
6:17 their, in place of, His
8:7 Add: (earth) and a third part of the earth was burnt up
8:13 eagle, in place of, angel
12:12 Omit: the inhabiters
13:1 he stood in place of, I stood
13:10 Omit: leadeth
13:10 is to be killed, in place of, killeth
13:10 Omit: must
15:3 nations, in place of, saints
15:6 stone, in place of, linen
16:5 holy, in place of, shalt be
16:17 Omit: of heaven
17:8 shall be present, in place of, yet is
17:16 and, in place of, upon
18:20 saints and apostles, in place of, holy apostles
19:1 Add: as (a great voice)
19:1 Omit: and honour
19:17* the great supper of God, in place of, the supper of the great God
21:3 the throne, in place of, heaven
21:7 these things, in place of, all things
21:16 Omit: is as large
21:24 Omit: and honour
22:5 longer, in place of, there (and they)
22:6 * spirits of the, in place of, holy
22:11 practice righteousness, in place of, be righteous
22:14* wash their robes, in place of, do His commandments
22:19 tree, in place of, book (of life)
22:21 the saints, in place of, you all
Total number 229
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If THE NIV IS INCORRECT, and the KJV does not match my Greek,
WHAT GREEK DO YOU USE?
Answer:
The KJV does not match YOUR greek, because YOUR GREEK matches YOUR NIV...
YOUR GREEK IS WRONG, that is why your NIV is wrong...
THERE IS THE GREEK that the NIV was derived from (virtually the only kind
you CAN buy now) and the AUTHORIZED Greek, which matches the KJV and DOES NOT
CONTAIN THE MAJORITY of errors text..
Look for the word MAJORITY in your preface...
If you see the word MAJORITY, then you are in the MAJORITY of NIV
error
WHAT IS THE MAJORITY?
THE MAJORITY TEXT is the subject of something called REFRAMING
Reframing means PUTTING A NEW NAME ON SOMETHING SO IT SOUNDS GOOD
kind of like putting FRESH CHICKEN on FROZEN chickens, just to sell them...
THE MAJORITY TEXT was named, because they took the MAJORITY of Manuscripts (about 400) that matched the SINAITICUS and VATICANUS (catholic basement versions) they did not take the MAJORITY of texts...
there were 5700 texts to choose from...
Now, how can you, in all good christian conscience, tell me that
400 is the MAJORITY of 5700?
Pretty interesting eh?
Anyway. MAJORITY TEXT = VATICANUS = SINAITICUS = ERROR = DOUAY =
JEHOVAHS WITNESS BIBLE...
ONLY TWO GREAT UNCIALS (earliest) HAVE ERRORS and match the MAJORITY TEXTS
THE REAL MAJORITY OF UNCIALS match the KJV!!!!
Here is how it goes
lettersof the apostles collected and copied --->
to
--> UNCIALS ->good uncials (a lot)-->Waldensians-->King James
-> Bad uncials (2)?vaticanus_>hid in cellar->MAJORITY->DOUAY
SO YOU HAVE HAD WOOL PULLED OVER YOUR EYES...
they have been USING BAD GREEK TEXTS to prove NIV CORRECT!!!
Don't fall for it...
THOSE GREEK TEXTS the two Bad UNCIALs were PUT ON THE DUNG HEAP by CALVIN...
(of course they then killed him)
That proves those Uncials don't belong on the trash heap, they said...
and the NIV has the nerve to say those 2 out of 20 or so are the
MOST ACCURATE?
Most accurate with NIV, yes, but most corrupt with NIV also...
some reasoning...
Don't believe me, believe your KJV!
(kind of catchy, eh?)
Thise are the the facts...
MAJORITY TEXT = DON't WAST YOUR MONEY
look on your preface of your GREEK TEXT...
If it says majority, then it is a good partner with your NIV in
the waste bin...
---HERE IS A POSTING I RECEIVED...
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>> scriptures.On Mon, 25 Sep 1995
>> Dear Sir,
>
>> I thank you for your extensive research. I'm sure you have
spent countless hours exploring the differences between these two
versions of the most holy scriptures.
>>
>> The subject was repentance, my Greek interlinear is missing
the word "metanoia" in Matthew 9:13.
>>You do know that the Greek word for repentance is "metanoia"?
Of course you do! I am also not showing that word in Mark 2:13
as well.
>
>> In Luke 4:4 my direct Greek translation is missing the word
"Theos" or God, but of course you know your Greek well.
>> What gives?
>> Could my Greek bible be wrong?
>>I've seen an NIV Bible that tried to explain the words "through
his blood" in Colossians 1:12 as being >>added later.
>>In this case I would have to go with an earlier manuscript than
a later one.
YES! THE EARLIER MANUSCRIPTS, the UNCIALS MOSTLY MATCH THE KING
JAMES UNCIALS!
THE "MAJORITY TEXT UNCIALS ARE IN ERROR, THE SINAITICUS, and
VATICANUS---"
The NIV USES THESE and calls them THE MOST ACCURAT VERSIONS!!!
The NIV ACTUALLY BEARS FALSE WITNESS in many places by adding and
leaving out texts Because ITS UNCIALS also left them out.
I will try to explain...
(wait till you see the JESUIT - HORT text posting I put up, the
NIV calls the ONLY TWO CORRUPT ORIGINIAL UNCIALS the ONLY TWO
CORRECT VERSIONS ! In this post!)
I was shocked and scared at the same time when I saw the
deliberate deviousness in the NIV translators..., (although it
could be honest error in SOME people, it stands to reason that
SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE had to make this deliberate deviousness of
removing and changing, come forth INITIALLY!!!
That is what happens when we lean on the arms of even ONE devious
flesh...
The Bible promises our sure destruction if we do this!!!
Jer 17:5 THUS SAITH THE LORD; CURSED BE THE MAN THAT TRUSTETH IN
MAN, AND MAKETH FLESH HIS ARM, AND WHOSE HEART DEPARTETH FROM THE
LORD.
Jer 17:6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall
not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in
the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
Jer 17:7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose
hope the LORD is.
Jer 17:8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and
that spreadeth... any way read it for yourself...
>> I don't want people adding words to my Bible let alone take
them away!!
AMEN AMEN.
>> What could they add to a perfect text like the Bible?
Since the BIBLE IS ALL TRUTH, they could only add Error.
>>Revelation 22:18 says it true "For I testify unto every man
that heareth the words of the prophecy of >>this book, If any man
shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues
that are written >>in this book."
>>So I wonder which Greek translation you are using in your quest
for a more perfect Bible.
Because mine is missing words that the KJV adds.
NOT QUITE... YOUR TEXT HAS DELETED THE PORTIONS that the KING
JAMES HAD!!!
If you go to a store and buy a GREEK, you will 98% of the time
get the MAJORITY (ERRORED) greek as it is the only one that
MATCHES THE NIV!!!
(Do you see now?)
It is getting nearly impossible to get an "authorized" Greek
anymore...
three years ago I spent most of the day trying to find one...
They said it could be had from...
Henderson publishers, but now, the only one they had acknowledes
it ADDS the MAJORITY TEXT...
in DIFFICULT SITUATIONS... It is corrupt too..
I will keep checking on where a good one can be found...
I will let you know... IF THEY ARE STILL AVAILABLE...
YOU WANT AN AUTHORIZED VERSION GREEK...
If you can find it anymore, you have gold!
Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and
understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth
away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received
seed by the way side.
THEY SELL MOSTLY THE BAD GREEK VERSION now!!! TO MATCH THE NIV...
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
the best GREEK TRANSLATION is RIGHT IN YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
God isGREAT and WISE...
The virtual IDENTICAL translation from the GOOD GREEK, is the
KING JAMES VERSION!!!
God is so wise!
READ IT EXACTLY AS IT SAYS THINGS!
YOU HAVE THE AUTHORIZED GREEK IN YOUR HANDS!
FOR ALL THE GREEK I KNOW,
SALVATION IS NOT to the
GREEKERS
or HEBREW SCHOLARS!!!
God PROMISED He would keep his word pure...
since the NIV removes and adds, it is not pure...
since it contradicts, it is not God's word...
ALL THE GREEK TEXTS SEEM TO side with the MAJORITY,
the LAST CORRECT AUTHORIZED GREEK PRINTING I KNOW OF was in 1902
called
THE NEW TESTAMENT IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK ACCORDING TO THE TEXT
FOLLOWED BY THE AUTHORIZED VERSION edited by F.H.A. Scrivener and
published 1894-1902
Amen and God rest in peace the last Greek I know of that was
totally correct...
BUT HIS WORD DOES NOT DIE...
God said HIS WORD would be available to all..
BY FAITH, pick up your KJV, and you have the CORRECT GREEK!
DID YOU KNOW THE KJV IS NOT OLD ENGLISH?
This is the big untruth being told, THAT THE KING JAMES VERSION
IS OLD FASHIONED!
OLD FASHINED? NO WAY!
READ THE INTRODUCTION to the KING JAMES VERSION!
THAT IS OLD ENGLISH!
Sounds like modern English...
SOUNDS JUST LIKE OUR speach...
NO thee's and THOUS....
y
READ IT... you willl see..
They did not speak with KING JAMES SYNTAX in 1610!
WHY THEES AND THOUS IN THE BIBLE?
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT GREEK SOUNDS LIKE!
the YE's are pleural yous, the YOU's are singular yous the THOU's
are different tenses of ye's etc
THE NIV allegedly "IMPROVED" this by making first and second
person singular and pleurals all YOU...
THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT?
no, that is confusion...
And it definitely makes HUGE differences in doctrinal issues in some spots...
think about that...
I HAVE THE PERFECT, UNADULTERATED GREEK right here in my trembling little hands...
It is called the KJV Bible...
IT IS THE MOST ACCURATE TRANSLATION word for word of the 1902
text that exists..(actually the other way around, but still the same point)
Save your money on Greek versions...
When someone comes spouting Greek to you, tell them this...
I don't speak Greek...
1 Cor 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
1 Cor 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
So it applies to Greek also...
the person speaking or showing GREEK should not do so UNLESS BOTH KNOW GREEK...
WE DON"T NEED GREEK... WE DONT NEED HEBREW...
WE NEED JESUS AND HIS WORD... KJV
I only bring forth the Greek to those OTHERS who SAY they know Greek on the net,
but need clarifying that they have a corrupt Greek...
Now...
Oh well, forget that point...
God will not let ANY of HIS OWN FALL, I believe that with all my heart. Leave them alone after the first warning, it is then their responsibility to pray about it...
God will lead...
So I warn, and then I will be silent... I DO NOT CONVERT, I just
warn. That is all...
The Holy Spirit converts...
I will not take a chance on MY Salvation with the ACKNOWLEDGEDLY
CHANGED scriptures!
THE KJV is usually CHEAPER! (Special clearance off the shelf
prices, look and see...)
THEY ADMIT NIV IS CHANGED, of COARSE THEY DO...
Iof course, and then they excuse it becasue it IMPROVES the PAVEMENT on the ROAD to HELL and makes it easier for others to walk that way...
Amen.
I have my perfect Greek translation, it is the KJV...
Perfect enough for Salvation...
This is NOT true of the NIV... Sorry...
200 million Hindus think they are right also... No. they are not....
If I take my KJV and remove ALL PUNCTUATION,
it would be IDENTICAL with the Greek...
Just ignore your punctuation... then you have a perfect Bible...
Now, devil, see if you can take THAT away from me!
BUT, for BIBLE STUDY, you need a concordance...
YOU MUST ALSO GET THIS... A CONCORDANCE..
ONE OF THOSE KJV (if you can find them) Electronic handheld bibles is WONDERFUL! Sell your NIV's to buy one!
Some concordances are CROSS NUMBERED WITH THE HEBREW GREEK INTERLINEAR...But since we don't need Greek or Hebrew, who cares?)
But then... HOW DO I FIND THE MEANING OF A WORD IF I DON't HAVE GREEK?
like the Bible says...
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon
precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there
a little:
take your electronic BIBLE CONCORDANCE (99 bucks) punch in COMMANDMENTS, and read ALL OF THEM YOU will then understand ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT IT...
THAT IS BIBLE STUDY...
THAT IS EASY...
AND you don't need a D.D. degree to persecute others with either...
Remember,
Jesus is the HIGH PREIST:
Heb 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; AND YOU ARE THE PREIST:
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
THE BIBLE SAID IT...
SO BE IT...
AMEN
See what Bible study does?
If you looked up HIGH PREIST and PREIST in a BIBLE DICTIONARY, you would get all confused...
The Bible is clear...
(I wonder if the NIV acknowledges this, someone check it out, would you?)
thanks...
YOU ARE A PRIEST...
for scholars, knowing a language can be a enlightenment (boon) and a bane ( PRIDE)
(D.D. stands for .. DUMB DOGS sometimes...
Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all DUMB DOGS, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
Isa 56:12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.not necessary to be saved though...
HERE IS HOW MUCH WE SHOULD BELIEVE PASTORS...
Jeremiah 2:8 (KJV) The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.
Jeremiah 10:21 (KJV) For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
Jeremiah 12:10 (KJV) Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.
Jeremiah 17:16 (KJV) As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee.
Jeremiah 22:22 (KJV) The wind shall eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness.
Jeremiah 23:1 (KJV) Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:2 (KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
HERE IS THE ONLY GOOD MENTION: Jeremiah 3:15 (KJV) And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
1/8 good pastors, 7/8 bad pastors...
Hmmm.
STRONGS CONCORDANCE CAN BE Purchased AT:
(Other concordances are good too, but don't get the Scoffeild's
version of anything, the margins and crossreferences fit NICLEY
with NIV...
Christian Heritage Publishing Co... INC.
POST OFFICE BOX 5010
Lake Wylie, SC 29710
PHONE 803-831-1813
FAX 803-831-1562
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...
But REMEMBER THEY SELL MOSTLY THE BAD VERSION Interlinear...
Greek texts !!!!
So don't bother getting one of them...
I spent two days getting a KING JAMES interlinear Greek AFTER
ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR AUTHORIZED VERSION, THEY PROMISED ME
SEVERAL TIMES IT WAS AUTHORIZED ONLY and NO MAJORITY TEXT...
I spent the MONEY and then found on the inside cover this HEART-
STO\PPING statemnt
"some contradictory texts were resolved with the MAJORITY
TEXT!!!!!!
even now, the call the MAJORITY with enough clout to CHANGE THE
KING JAMES!
Oh, woe is us...
Save your money...
If I find a good one, I will let you know,
If anyone has a greek that DOES NOT CONTAIN THE MAJORITY TEXT,
LET ME KNOW!
THANKS...
>>..So I wonder which Greek translation you are using in your
quest for a moreperfect Bible.
>>Because mine is missing words that the KJV adds.
>>And thiscan't be true.
>> It can't be.
>>We can only shudder at the concequences of Revelation 22:18 if
it is.
Amen!
We are TOLD to shudder...
Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded,
And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned,
or thrust through with a dart:
Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I
exceedingly fear and quake:)
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of
the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable
company of angels,
Yes the truth of the COMMANDMENTS were to quake at, and the Devil
has NEARLY the whole world now REMOVED EVERY REFERENCE TO THE
COMMANDMENTS IN THE NEW TEXTAMENT...
Broad is the way...
>> So I wonder which Greek translation you are using in your
quest for a more perfect Bible.
KJV and a concordance...
>> Because mine is missing words that the KJV adds.
>> And thiscan't be true.
>> It can't be.
(Remember, yours is missing the words THAT SHOULD BE THERE)
Only the Holy Spirit could have shown you this...
To ACTUALLY QUESTION A "BIBLE TRANSLATION" Because God CANNOT
LIE! You are a child of Jesus own heart..."
You...
know Him well...
ANSWER: Yes. Your Greek Bible is in error... Yes it is.
EVERY DD will crucify me now, so what...
It is still true...
And I will show it...
THE UNCIALS were the earliest versions written in capitals only and no punctuation. THEY ALL MATCH the KJV in these texts such as the Rev 14:12 text. EXCEPT FOR TWO! and the SINAITICUS and VATICANUS GREEK UNCIALS WERE THE ONES CHANGED but CONSTANTINES COHORTS!!! MARCION the CHANGELING did it...
The pre, nicean fathers said so...
This will be shown much more clearly... In the next few posts...
WHAT TO DO... WHAT TO DO...
This is what The BIBLE Suggests...
GO :
ASK FOR FORGIVENESS as we sinned unknowingly (I did too.)
1.GOTOBOOKSTORE.
Amen!
2. BUY KING JAMES VERSION (a GOOD QUALITY ONE)
AMEN AMEN.
3. Buy a good CONCORDANCE (which will have the worthless greek
cross references, from the majority text and I don't need them....).
THROW ALL OTHER RELIGIOUS TRASH IN THE CIRCULAR FILE...
Including Bible dictionaries... Yes there is some good, but they will ALL lead you away from repentance...
PRAY A WHOLE LOT that GOD will send His very own HOLY SPIRIT through the POWER of the BLOOD OF JESUS our ONLY WAY TO CHRIST, and will send us knowledge. As WE ARE HIS PRIESTS, ask Him to to send the HOLY SPIRIT to open as many eyes as will see...
MEMORIZ... MEMORIZE... MEMORIZE...
I personally, alone, believe that soon the very KING JAMES BIBLE will not be available...
Do not believe me?
No one will sell it anymore!
I went to get a leather bound large print ...OUT OF PRIINT...
I went to by a miniature sip up....OUT OF PRINT
I went to get the KING JAMES GREEK (AUTHORIZED TEXT) ..out of print
"We don't sell any King James Bible anymore..."
I could special order it, lets see if any of our warehouses has
them... No, that oone is out of stock... Sorry..."
So ends civilization...
BUT, wait, DOESN'T HISTORY repeat itself?
Remember the flood? Fire instead of water this time?
...
WE SOON WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUY the KJV AUTHORIZED.....
NO ONE WILL PRINT IT ANYMORE, ones the backlash hits...
You want to hear something REALLY SAD?
FUNDAMENTALISTS used to mean BELEIVE IN THE WORD OF GOD EXACTLY... KJV was the onl;y version they read... NOW, they ALL USE NIV!
If you were a fundamentalist back then, and REMAINED A FUNDAMENTALIST NOW...
you would have HDA TO
either
1. change your beleifs...
Or ignore the NIV...
TRUTH DOES NOT CHANGE...
REPENTANCE AND REVIVAL WAS KEY...
NOW CELEBRATION AND PARTY
Something is seriously wrong...
THE corruption of the world will be complete...
(FUNDAMENTALISTS will be hated, psychiatrists will state EVIL BOOKS MAKE EVIL MINDS, and the law will be passed for a PC Bile Bible that allows homosexuality, sin, multiple paths to God...
fortunatly there will still be people standing in the streets PREACHING from their HEARTS the PC INCORRECT BIBLE! they will have their head cut off...
There IS one good thing about the NIV... the Bible says
Psa 119:161 Princes have persecuted me without a cause: but my heart standeth in awe of thy word.
Psa 119:162 I rejoice at thy word, as one that findeth great spoil.
Psa 119:163 I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love.
Psa 119:164 Seven times a day do I praise thee because of thy righteous judgments.
Psa 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord.
THE SERVANT CAN'T change HIS WORD...
Since we are going to be persecuted for HIS WORD, then, if you have the NIV, you WON'T be persecuted! (One good thing about this, temporarily any way... (until the plagues...)
Jesus "stubborn cold-hearted, politically incorect followers" (who incidentally hate and are bigoted according to some) would all be killed if God did not step in first...
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
God will have to save His own Politically INcorrect incorrect followers...
Moses was NOT PC...
Elijah was NOT PC...
ZECHARIAH, DANIEL, JESUS, all were NOT politically correct...
Truth is truth, and it will not die...
Jesus is the only answer...
Not Buddha.
Not Hinduism...
Not Taoism...But CHRIST...
Pray DAILY...
God bless...
Keep studying...
Richard...